Translate a romanized Fukien/Hokkien name into chinese
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Stefani -
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My dictionary tells me that in the whole Mandarin language there is only one character pronounced
Zhan2. '薝' ....It gives no meaning for the character.
I am so sorry Chaxiu, I was wrong, it should have been Zhan4, not Zhan2, although the dictionary I
use doesn't show that there is a surname with that. I'll research it more and post later.
I did get another reply that said Tjiam is Zhan1 with that Hanzi you gave 詹, so I am convinced
that that is the correct one.
There you go bubdub, Tjiam is 詹, Zhan1.
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chaxiu -
Hey Stefani,
Your right there is a Chinese surname Zhan4 '湛'. I couldn't find the Hokkien for it. I would
assume the surname is quite rare.
Chaxiu
P.S. bubdub, let us know what name you choose
Stefani -
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As far as I know the pinyin "JIAN"( 简 ) which is also a chinese last name,
Xie xie Kaimei, although bubdub is not really looking for a last name as he does have a proper
Chinese last name, it is just he did not know what the Hanzi as well as the Mandarin pronunciation
(he knew the romanized Hokkien only).
Kaimei -
Oh,I'm sorry that I was not take it seriously,
I just want to give some clues.
And,later I found a search result from Google:
Quote:
Hong Kong Standard Chartered Marathon 2008- 繁 - [ 转为简体网页 ]
TJIAM SUET CHING, 詹雪晴, Hong Kong
It shows you are right.
Lu -
OP, maybe this is a stupid remark but do you have any family on your father's side that might shed
some light on this? Your father, or an uncle or grandfather or cousin, might be able to tell you
which character it should be, and then you're sure got the right one. Or even a picture of a
wedding (Chinese weddings often have the last names of bride and groom put up at the back of the
stage) or a grave of someone in your family.
monto -
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As far as I know (and that being very little) '詹' is a common Chinese surname. It is pronounced
Zhān in Mandarin and Chiam(1st tone) in Hokkien/Taiwanese (POJ romanization).
So my suggestion of 詹 was based on the possibility of Tjiam being pronounced Chiam1.
Chaxiu
I am nearly in the position to say Chaxiu is right.
in addition to the clue (TJIAM SUET CHING, 詹雪晴, Hong Kong )Kaimei provided,
I also searched my Korean dictionary for the pronunciation. 詹 in Korean pronounces as /t∫әm/
(international phonetic symbols), almost the same as chiam. There are many Chinese characters
sound the same or very similar both in Hokkien and in Korean ( I know from Korean that even the
word "Hokkien" now meaning Minnanhua actually stands for "福建" (fu2jian4 in Pinyin) originally,
though Minnanhua is totally Greek to me) because, both as languages derived from ancient Chinese,
Hokkien underwent less phonetic changes than the current Chinese, and Chinese characters and their
pronunciation were introduced into Korea at early date. Particularly those sounds that end with
/m/ completely dispeared in current Chinese, but still there in both Hokkien and Korean.
So we have now other criterion for candidate character for the right answer beside "surname":
Any candidate character should be proved to have pronuciation ending with /m/ in Hokkien or Korean.
Hope it might be useful.
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